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10/11/2009

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Dianne Schmidley

Wayne as ususal, a facinating account. I have felt that the used book stores had acquired new life from the Internet. I have tracked down many old books using Amazon's network, and have sold a few myself via Amazon, although I am neither inclined nor or equipped to deal with the packaging, postage, etc. these days.

I recently bagged up hundreds of books, and made my husband clean out his book shelves too. When we arrived at Goodwill to drop them off, two older women working that day immediately went through them. 'Wow, I'm keeping this one,' said one woman. They mostly liked the fiction, not my hundreds of old sociology and statistics books.

To a great extent, I have passed on fiction in recent years finding it trivial and boring for the most part. History is much more interesting, especially history I can sink my teeth into. I also read controversial books, which means in recent years, I have begun to read some of those right-wing books folks condemn without reading. Having finished 'Liberal Facism' last year, I then took a history course on 19th-20th century European history (606) because I am tring to understand how do supposedly good people do such dastardly things. Sure enough, one of the books was on Nazi Germany.

I read another book in that course that trashed both John LeCarre and Agatha Christie as empiricists (as in nasty evil lovers of Empire and orientalism). So, I am re-reading some of LeCarre's books. I read the Raj Quartet a few years ago and had a graduate history classmate tell me that these books were terribly biased. She hadn't read the books, she just quoted what she heard in her classroom.

This scares me. I think we all need to read more books, old and new. As one of my undergradute sociology professors said, it isn't who wrote them, its what they said that counts. So good for you keeping the flame alive.

Adrienne

You are correct and I too love books, and as I posted in my blog information technology has indeed changed the world. On the one hand I am quite pleased, as I gear up for my comps to have search engines, electrical abstracts AND most importanlty automated footnotes (Zotero rocks!). That said, I weep over the closing of Gourmet Magazine (I was devestated) and struggle with paying $6.00 for the Sunday Times when I can read it for free online. Also, I too own many books and very little space and am always torn when having to choose which ones have to go.

Finally, friends have been urging me to get a Kindle - a Kindle! I have not yet succumb - is electronic media going to take over, and does it make a difference? (I think it does) It does provide the knowledge although not the same experience. I have trained myself to read the news online, perhaps I will get used to reading solely from a screen although - I hope not.

Wayne Z.

I too have friends that push the Kindle. But since you can't scribble notes on it I can't see me using it for much! ;-)
I have tried to do something as simple as reading journal articles on my computer, but it just doesn't work. Besides, if I took a Kindle into the tub for a nice leisurely read I fear I would ruin it with a splash!
Push come to shove I love going into a book shop with no real clue of what I am going to buy. This is what happened with the McMurtry book. I had heard it was out a while ago, thought about it, then quickly forgot about it until I walked into the shop on Friday. Serendipity is a wonderful thing and I don't see it happen to me much when I browse books on-line.

Dianne Schmidley

Well, I am still in the Retro crowd too. I wonder how many of those folks who buy a Kindle really are book lovers? Seems so elitist to me. But then I live with a husband who refuses to own a cell phone and my Aunt will not give into owing a microwave. What would I do all day? she says. She loves the talking books I send her and passes them along to my other old Aunts and then they go to the "continuing care" organizations. I have passed my mystery books on to my granddaughters and my daughter's 95 year-okd MIL who still reads books. She reads the same ones over and over. They are old friends.

TJD

I am a dedicated Kindle reader. I generally have a number of books going at once--1 or 2 for school, a fiction (currently Dan Brown, and no, I am not ashamed) on my Kindle, a non-fiction (currently Legacy of Ashes, on my iPhone Kindle reader), and an audio book (just for fun or at the gym). I also keep the Sunday Times and a few magazines on the Kindle (New Yorker, Atlantic). I do not think it is elitist, any more than not using one is Luddite. It's efficient, cheaper (after the sunk costs, books are only $9.95), easy to carry, and saves space. I would not use it for academic books, but for casual readings, it is great. It is particularly well-suited to fiction--somehow, clicking the little bar to advance the page makes everything feel more exciting.
Technology changes, so must we, the readers. I do find serendipity in on-line book shopping, or I will simply go in forearmed with the name of a book I've seen reviewed etc. I think there is sort of a reverse prejudice against the Kindle. It has its flaws, and it will never completely replace the printed page. But, once you get one, I suspect you will find yourself reading more than ever. At least I do.
And, no, I do not represent Amazon, I just love my Kindle (my wife has one too, and feels the same way).

Wayne Z.

The people I know that have Kindle's range from folks that are strictly fiction readers, addicted to having the book as soon as it is published, to one friend who is a PhD and reads journal articles on hers (or course the images and equations and all of that don't come through, but since she is a sociologist she hates math anyway so I doubt she really feels there is a problem). For the "first on the block"-ers, it is probably cheaper.

Something I just thought of is a more long term cost argument. Since an e-book it cannot be recycled in the way that a printed book can be brought into a neighborhood used book shop (assuming one exists in your neighborhood), sold for a dollar or two, and then resold for perhaps 33% of the original printed price, the long term economic cost may be higher on the Kindle. I am not familiar with the Kindle but can you lend your e-copy to another reader? Or imagine the surprise on Christmas morning when you open the package containing an e-book! (How would we wrap such a gift?)

The more I think about it the more I think that the social nature of a book, lending, reselling, etc. is lost with e-books. I have yet to have a friend at Starbuck's say "Hey, when I finish this cool new novel I am reading I'll lend it to you." Interesting economic consequences!

Lindsey Bestebreurtje

I love buying used books on Amazon, but before using that site I had never been in, or considered going in a used book store. In my mind used book stores are full of first editions and collectors items and not deals.

Wayne Z.

Lindsey,
OMG! ;-)

The little expensive places in little expensive shops in gentrified neighborhoods are like that. But that is not generally the case. There is one at Eastern Market (if you are an urbanite like me) which is quite dumpy and quite inexpensive. There are a couple out in the far western reaches of NOVA (Centreville, etc.) called McKay, which is OK for paperbacks and some other light reading but I haven't been there in years. If you are in NYC go to the Strand, north of the Village. Worlds largest used book store, although they have a lot of remainders mixed in as well. Pack a lunch, you'll be there for a while!

I have my favorites, like Lyrical Ballad in Saratoga, NY (I have friends in the Albany area). Second Story, especially the warehouse on Parklawn in Rockville, is really good as well.
Wayne

Adrienne

Wayne: Off topic a little but they just announced the nominees for National Book Awards - Fordlandia by Greg Grandin is one in the non fiction category; have you read it? Or anyone for that matter? Just wondering?

Adrienne

An interesting op-ed blog regarding "electronic reading"

http://roomfordebate.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/14/does-the-brain-like-e-books/

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